[Forgone Conclusion]

You like your churches plain, or are you all about the transubstansiation ?

Vote here!

SHIT! Where di the poll go?

mod! HELP!

[Andrew]

Protestants. They're closer to Jews.

[Automatic Man]

can there be a neither option? or will this just turn into another religion thread?

[Forgone Conclusion]

no, cos that doesnt answer the question

[Automatic Man]

eh... okay

[misterj]

Better at what?

[Gabriel Synthesis]

life

[misterj]

Are we talking Ireland here or in general, as I couldn't tell a catholic from a protestant untill they start killing each other, and that's where they generally do it. As for better at life, I know plenty of people who seem good at life and others that are having a shit, time and I don't know who are proddys and who are catholics but thats maybe not anything to do with so called religion.
And FC whether one lot dresses up and makes a bigger show [catholic] than the other matters not a jot to me, its all about gangs........ there's only one God but my gang worships him better than yours, you know the score.

[The Phlegmy One!111]

Protestants. Slightly more liberal

[where_i'm_calling_from]

actually that's an entirely misguided belief. all fundamentalist christians are from the protestant branch of christianity, which began with calvin, who gave the doctrine of salvation by faith - if you believe in jesus you'll go to heaven, if you don't you'll burn.

catholicism is a lot more liberal than it used to be. its just a lot more traditionally and not so progressive. its reforming very quickly. just 50 years ago all catholic masses were done in latin and so forth. protestantism is much more reactive and defensive.

liberal protestantism, such as that proposed by paul tillich, is what appeals most to me on this issue, because a lot of catholic doctrine has no precedent, biblical or otherwise, and so is really indefensible. but whatever. i can't be arsed to write more about either of them.

[misterj]

Blah, blah, blah, Calvin says this and some other prick says something else , what a load of nonesence. There may be a God, but all of this man made organised religion stuff, is just absurd, they make it up as they go along, and the poor sods out there believe every word of it, logic and reason go right out of the nearest door or window. If Calvin or any other interpreters of the Bible had come round to my house for a debate, I'd send him away with his tail between his legs, just like I do with the Jehovahs Ws, utterly defeated.

[Dave. zzz....]

Methodist's are the best Christians going. If you're gonna be religious, you might as well do it right.

[Echoes]

i don't give a shit. Religion is so passe

[Andrew]

The Aristocrat, on Feb 7 2006, 01:15 PM, said:

i don't give a shit. Religion is so passe

If anything is passé these days it's atheism.

[The Phlegmy One!111]

Whatever ed. All I know is on issues that are usually debated, the Catholic view is uncompromisingly ridiculous. Abortion,euthanasia, etc. Also Andrew, the numbers say otherwise. ALSO athiesm is not the opposite of religion. There are atheistic religions.

[where_i'm_calling_from]

siva, do you know what passé means? it seems like you didn't really understand Andrew's comment.

This post has been edited by johnny sniper: 07 February 2006 - 05:25 PM

[Forgone Conclusion]

While they may be making rapid progress now (not in latin, etc) these are all progressions made by the protestant religion centuries ago.

Also, protestants are less sexist/homophobic, etc, more liable to adapt to modern concerns such as abortion & contraception, have fewer moronic views such as transubstasiation and the stupid idea of confession

Atheism is probably more passé nowadays, and also probably more popular. Lots of people put themselves down as say Christian on their census forms, even though they never go to church, pray, and dont really believe. Also, it's all about the agnostocism

This post has been edited by Forgone Conclusion: 07 February 2006 - 05:29 PM

[where_i'm_calling_from]

...did you not read my post or something curtis? all the fundamentalists in america, i.e. the majority of christians opposed to abortion, are protestants. a lot of catholics maintain their faith whilst ignoring the teachings on contraception because they're not infallible doctrine.

i don't think it really makes a difference when changes came about in the church...i mean, protestantism may have been founded with an english bible etc etc, but bear in mind this happened 1500 years after the life of christ so it doesn't really have the authenticity of the first christian religion on its side.

and ideas such as transubstantion and confession may sound stupid to an atheist, but not really any more so that fundamental teachings of just about any other religion, and i think its incredibly conceited and frankly stupid to insult other peoples' faiths.

and agnosticism isn't at all passé. its never really been in vogue.

This post has been edited by johnny sniper: 07 February 2006 - 05:32 PM

[Forgone Conclusion]

Yeah, i was saying it's all about the agnostocism in a GOOD way, not that it was passé

In the UK certainly on issues such as gay marriage and women priests protestants are far more liberal. Also, when the changes and devlopments are made does make a difference do of course make a differnece.

Just because a country has rapid development in recent years, it can still be behind an MEDC in terms of it's economic strength, and that rapid growth may not be sustained in the future (that's a metaphor btw, not me going cmopletely off-topic) and the new pope is certainly not likely to be setting the catholics on a liberal slope is he? More likely the opposite.

[Echoes]

Andrew, on Feb 7 2006, 04:53 PM, said:

The Aristocrat, on Feb 7 2006, 01:15 PM, said:

i don't give a shit. Religion is so passe

If anything is passé these days it's atheism.

Wow, way to take something seriously?