[Forgone Conclusion]

Since when has he denied being Christian?

[where_i'm_calling_from]

i also stopped reading the posts once the got really long. i don't think chris mcgeever denies hes christian, seeing as he reckons he is actually jesus.

[misterj]

Phlegmy, which posts would you like me to address? Bring it on!!!

[paddys wink]

The Phlegmy One!111, on Oct 11 2006, 08:53 PM, said:

What you're sayign in infinitley more absurd than anything on this planet. You're actually saying something stupider than Biblical creation. You just said that species could have been created and placed on the Earth at different times by 'god'. And then you say the meteor thing which is semi-believeable and discredit it. I am not following your logic at all. Also, I'm sure if you had eternity, you could find a grain of rice in the Sahara, because that is what the universe has. An almost unlimited amount of time and chances, so even the rarest of occurances happen a few times. And you're right, proving evolution doesn't dicredit that God may have been behind igniting the Big Bang and setting things in motion, but it does dicredit that God is dropping species on our planet at intervals when he feels it's just that time of day for a new species to be thrown in the mix. And also, if thsi is all God could come up with, with unlimited resources, he's not even as imagnative as his creations. He made so many similar yet different species of things (eg. Apes). There's variety on Earth, but there is nowhere near as much as there could be. You give me those powers and unlimited time and I'll whip you up a planet to envy the God himself.

However, I do love the whack in the face ignoring of Paddys Wink in this thread.

thats because you could never beat me,the same as you could not get into any place of higher learning if the acceptance levels were not so embarassingly LOW

[Godisgreat]

Just to put my 2 pence in i defend christianity...NOT religion. Christianity is a relationship with God through Christ. Thats what i follow

[The Phlegmy One!111]

Christianity IS a religion. That relationship sounds a bit one way, like Curtis and the girl he stalks. Oh yeah and she's imaginary.

[Godisgreat]

The Phlegmy One!111, on Dec 3 2006, 08:19 PM, said:

Christianity IS a religion. That relationship sounds a bit one way, like Curtis and the girl he stalks. Oh yeah and she's imaginary.

Christianity CAN be a religion but is NOT meant to be one.

Christianity the religion achieves nothing. Christianity the relationship - it redeems, it restores, it heals, it leads us, it empowers us.......why because christianity the relationship means knowing Jesus and He does all the above in His followers. In christianity the religion they do not know Jesus and have never experienced Him and what He does. They follow set rules born again Christians follow the Holy Spirit.

[Forgone Conclusion]

So you follow the relationship, not the rules, yet follow concepts such as creationism and no sex before marriage which have nothing to do with the 'relationship' and everything to do with religion?

[The Phlegmy One!111]

No Christianity is a religion. Whether it's meant to be one or not is not the point.

[Godisgreat]

Forgone Conclusion, on Dec 3 2006, 11:54 PM, said:

So you follow the relationship, not the rules, yet follow concepts such as creationism and no sex before marriage which have nothing to do with the 'relationship' and everything to do with religion?

When one becomes a christian we dont do the above because we have to we do it because we WANT to. We want to give our lifes to God and life this way because of what HE has done for us.

Rather like growing up physically we do so spiritually and these things just happen.

God says that one day He will write His laws upon the hearts of His people that was a prophecy concerning Christs followers. The laws of God are on our hearts we dont follow them we express them they are a natural part of us.

[MetalUpYourAss]

This is the first time in my life I have seen a post from the person above and I think its kinda ironic how its a religious topic and his/ her name is god is great... or is it just me?

[Echoes]

just you. I don't think others would find the presence of someone calling themself 'godisgreat' in a topic about God surprising.

[paddys wink]

Godisgreat, on Dec 4 2006, 12:24 AM, said:

Forgone Conclusion, on Dec 3 2006, 11:54 PM, said:

So you follow the relationship, not the rules, yet follow concepts such as creationism and no sex before marriage which have nothing to do with the 'relationship' and everything to do with religion?

When one becomes a christian we dont do the above because we have to we do it because we WANT to. We want to give our lifes to God and life this way because of what HE has done for us.

Rather like growing up physically we do so spiritually and these things just happen.

God says that one day He will write His laws upon the hearts of His people that was a prophecy concerning Christs followers. The laws of God are on our hearts we dont follow them we express them they are a natural part of us.

DO YOU BELEIVE IN THE VIRGIN MARY?

[viv]

Godisgreat, on Dec 4 2006, 12:24 AM, said:

Forgone Conclusion, on Dec 3 2006, 11:54 PM, said:

So you follow the relationship, not the rules, yet follow concepts such as creationism and no sex before marriage which have nothing to do with the 'relationship' and everything to do with religion?

When one becomes a christian we dont do the above because we have to we do it because we WANT to. We want to give our lifes to God and life this way because of what HE has done for us.

Rather like growing up physically we do so spiritually and these things just happen.

God says that one day He will write His laws upon the hearts of His people that was a prophecy concerning Christs followers. The laws of God are on our hearts we dont follow them we express them they are a natural part of us.

why do you guys always type in the same way? capitalisation of 'he' and 'his' when referring to god, capitalising random words for emphasis -- kind of like a preacher. or drone! sentences like "God says that one day He will write His laws upon the hearts of His people that was a prophecy concerning Christs followers" are frightening.

i feel obliged to reply to a few of your points even though i haven't followed the thread. firstly:

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Christianity CAN be a religion but is NOT meant to be one.

Christianity the religion achieves nothing. Christianity the relationship - it redeems, it restores, it heals, it leads us, it empowers us.......why because christianity the relationship means knowing Jesus and He does all the above in His followers.

i'm failing to grasp how christianity is not meant to be a religion when it simply was and is. if christianity the relationship means knowing jesus then christianity the religion becomes a necessity in order for you to have this relationship; claiming it achieves nothing is bizarre.

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When one becomes a christian we dont do the above because we have to we do it because we WANT to. We want to give our lifes to God and life this way because of what HE has done for us.

i'm not sure if you're trying to claim that it is some kind of coincidence that you simultaneously follow the rules set out in the bible while rejecting 'christianity the religion' and condemning those who do follow them: "In christianity the religion they do not know Jesus and have never experienced Him and what He does. They follow set rules born again Christians follow the Holy Spirit". you say you want to follow the rules but not because you 'have' to while criticising those that do follow them. this is completely nonsensical.

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The laws of God are on our hearts we dont follow them we express them they are a natural part of us.

implying that christianity the relationship is something innate is absurd, i recommend you look beyond western civilisation to see why.

as usual the logic becomes so gross and inane that arguing against it becomes more difficult than it should be.

[paddys wink]

viv, on Dec 15 2006, 01:38 AM, said:

Godisgreat, on Dec 4 2006, 12:24 AM, said:

Forgone Conclusion, on Dec 3 2006, 11:54 PM, said:

So you follow the relationship, not the rules, yet follow concepts such as creationism and no sex before marriage which have nothing to do with the 'relationship' and everything to do with religion?

When one becomes a christian we dont do the above because we have to we do it because we WANT to. We want to give our lifes to God and life this way because of what HE has done for us.

Rather like growing up physically we do so spiritually and these things just happen.

God says that one day He will write His laws upon the hearts of His people that was a prophecy concerning Christs followers. The laws of God are on our hearts we dont follow them we express them they are a natural part of us.

why do you guys always type in the same way? capitalisation of 'he' and 'his' when referring to god, capitalising random words for emphasis -- kind of like a preacher. or drone! sentences like "God says that one day He will write His laws upon the hearts of His people that was a prophecy concerning Christs followers" are frightening.

i feel obliged to reply to a few of your points even though i haven't followed the thread. firstly:

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Christianity CAN be a religion but is NOT meant to be one.

Christianity the religion achieves nothing. Christianity the relationship - it redeems, it restores, it heals, it leads us, it empowers us.......why because christianity the relationship means knowing Jesus and He does all the above in His followers.

i'm failing to grasp how christianity is not meant to be a religion when it simply was and is. if christianity the relationship means knowing jesus then christianity the religion becomes a necessity in order for you to have this relationship; claiming it achieves nothing is bizarre.

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When one becomes a christian we dont do the above because we have to we do it because we WANT to. We want to give our lifes to God and life this way because of what HE has done for us.

i'm not sure if you're trying to claim that it is some kind of coincidence that you simultaneously follow the rules set out in the bible while rejecting 'christianity the religion' and condemning those who do follow them: "In christianity the religion they do not know Jesus and have never experienced Him and what He does. They follow set rules born again Christians follow the Holy Spirit". you say you want to follow the rules but not because you 'have' to while criticising those that do follow them. this is completely nonsensical.

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The laws of God are on our hearts we dont follow them we express them they are a natural part of us.

implying that christianity the relationship is something innate is absurd, i recommend you look beyond western civilisation to see why.

as usual the logic becomes so gross and inane that arguing against it becomes more difficult than it should be.

oi oi saveloy your sex mad you aRE VIV

[The Phlegmy One!111]

Viv, it is possible to argue with chritians because there is a minute chance of getting through, but this one is a creationist, which by nature means that a large portion of sense and brain cells are missing.

[paddys wink]

The Phlegmy One!111, on Dec 16 2006, 06:39 AM, said:

Viv, it is possible to argue with chritians because there is a minute chance of getting through, but this one is a creationist, which by nature means that a large portion of sense and brain cells are missing.

hmmmm hahahaha possesive boy

[kimberlyb0112]

In my opinion, religion is just another way to control people. I hate the idea of "organized religion"..

I grew up pretty much agnostic and then about 10 months ago, I had someone witness to me about
Christianity..I can't just start believing in something so I had to do my research and find out
why people believed this, if there was truth to it, etc.. It was an interesting path..

In my "search for truth" or whatever you want to call it, I did find belief in God..
I still do, I don't think I will ever stop believing in God.. I read most of the bible
and I realized that I don't have a problem with Christianity.. but I have a
problem with the Christians and what they have turned it into. It has turned
into this "religious thing", who's wrong and who's right game it almost seems like..
and after all this time I don't believe anyone is going to be exactly right.

I mean come on, this has all been passed down for years and years.. stuff is going to get
changed, added, taken away.. I do believe in God, as far as the whole
"personal relationship/serving Him thing".. ehh.. I don't know it seems shady

I am just going to find comfort in the fact that there is a God,
use my own convictions to know the difference between right
or wrong and just go with it..I pretty much just claim to be
spiritual now.. not religious or anything