[jen.m]

i'm doing work experience at CDWOW! and part of my job was to put together a page of the greatest rock albums. i've started it (page URL = http://www5.cd-wow.c....60&affid=15374) but would really appreciate any opinions or comments from you as to what the best rock albums are. post any suggestions here, or email me at jen.m@cd-wow.com. thanks guys!

[timhulio]

I'd avoid having multiple records by the same band. That gets boring pretty quickly and displays a severe lack of record collection.
Skip the novelty acts (The Darkness) and the shallow and superficial (Lostprophets, Razorlight, Muse). Unplugged albums do not rock, bin them too.
Having horrible whinger Alanis Morrisette as your token girl is terrible- where's Patti Smith, Sleater Kinney, Electrelane, Bikini Kill in your list? No-one likes best-of comps either :-)
Some additions you might like to consider:

Husker Du - Zen Arcade
Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation
Sleater Kinney - The Hot Rock
Big Star - Sister Lovers
The Replacements - Let it Be
Neil Young - After the Gold Rush
Butthole Surfers - Locust Abortion Technician
Pretty Girls Make Graves - Good Health
Shellac - 1000 Hurts

[Droogie]

i havent heard of any of those, i would severely doubt they should be in any 'greatest rock albums' list.

i suggest you should take some of the biggest selling rock acts of the past and take their most acclaimed albums.

off the top of my head;

deep purple - made in japan
led zeppelin - II
whitesnake - 1987
megadeth - rust in piece
rainbow - rising
ac/dc - back in black
iron maiden - number of the beast
scorpions - love at first sting
dream theater - images and words
jimi hendrix - are you experienced
guns n roses - appetite for destruction
rush - moving pictures
queen - a night at the opera
black sabbath - paranoid

[timhulio]

The OLD ROCK eh? Yawn me a freaking river.

[TheDissident]

Add to Eh Tommy's list:

Pearl Jam - Ten
Nirvana - Nevermind
Soundgarden - Superunkown
Alice in Chains - Dirt
Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV
Deep Purple - Machine Head
Tool - Lateralus
U2 - The Joshua Tree
Foo Fighters - There's Nothing Left To Lose
REM - Automatic For The People
Cream - Wheels Of Fire

This post has been edited by pan satyros: 09 July 2005 - 01:18 AM

[Helen SD]

Id put Aenima on the list rather than Lateralus.

[misterj]

Always be warey of suggestions for, "greatest rock albums of all time", that no one has ever heard of. Stick with the lists made by, Pan Satyros and Eh Tommy, and you wont go far wrong.

[The Phlegmy One!111]

Helen SD, on Jul 8 2005, 07:13 PM, said:

Id put Aenima on the list rather than Lateralus.

I'd put both.

[timhulio]

misterj, on Jul 8 2005, 10:12 PM, said:

Always be warey of suggestions for, "greatest rock albums of all time", that no one has ever heard of. Stick with the lists made by, Pan Satyros and Eh Tommy, and you wont go far wrong.

Quite, otherwise you might discover something new.

[The Phlegmy One!111]

misterj, on Jul 8 2005, 10:12 PM, said:

Always be warey of suggestions for, "greatest rock albums of all time", that no one has ever heard of. Stick with the lists made by, Pan Satyros and Eh Tommy, and you wont go far wrong.

Popularity = being good.
Not really. There are a wealth of amazing unheard albums, and to say avoid them is idiotic.

[misterj]

If something is touted as being" the greatest of all time," its highly likely that we would have heard of it. To say an album fits that description, and you, and one of your mates, are the only ones that think so, is even more idiotic.

[Echoes]

the question is of 'greatness', not how much you like it. Those are two distinct things

[The Phlegmy One!111]

misterj, on Jul 8 2005, 11:32 PM, said:

If something is touted as being" the greatest of all time," its highly likely that we would have heard of it. To say an album fits that description, and you, and one of your mates, are the only ones that think so, is even more idiotic.

Well for one, I have no idea who the other person who had the same opinion was. Yes you would have heard of great albums if your definition of great is famous or 'what is generally accepted by everyone as great'. I'd prefer to make my own mind. If being great is not subjective, we would have a definitive list of the top 50 or so greatest musicians which no-one could argue with, but the fact of the matter is it is subjective.

[zombie-eaters]

Well any of the Iron Maiden Ones
but not the newest one iv heard thats shit

[zeb]

Electric Ladyland - Jimi Hendrix
Physical Grafitti - Led Zeppelin
The White Album - The Beatles
The Velvet Underground & Nico - The Velvet Underground & Nico
Pet Sounds - The Beach Boys
Raw Power - The Stooges
Spiderland - Slint
Ok Computer - Radiohead
Superunknown - Soundgarden
In Utero - Nirvana
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot - Wilco
Songs For The Dead - Queens of the Stone Age
Ten - Pearl Jam
Siamese Dream - Smashing Pumpkins
Dirt - Alice In Chains
Aenima - Tool
Where You Been - Dinosaur Jr
The Woods - Sleater Kinney
Lift Yr. Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven! - Godspeed You Black Emperor

There should be a couple of albums amongst those that everyone can appreciate.

j.

[TheDissident]

doggydoo, on Jul 9 2005, 03:17 AM, said:

misterj, on Jul 8 2005, 11:32 PM, said:

If something is touted as being" the greatest of all time," its highly likely that we would have heard of it. To say an album fits that description, and you, and one of your mates, are the only ones that think so, is even more idiotic.

Well for one, I have no idea who the other person who had the same opinion was. Yes you would have heard of great albums if your definition of great is famous or 'what is generally accepted by everyone as great'. I'd prefer to make my own mind. If being great is not subjective, we would have a definitive list of the top 50 or so greatest musicians which no-one could argue with, but the fact of the matter is it is subjective.

I think he/she wanted to know which albums are normally regarded as the best, which is, definetly, related to popularity. What is subjective is your taste, not the sucess of something and if there are many people saying, for example, that Rolling Stones are one of the greatest Rock bands of all time then I have to agree, even if I don't like them.

[misterj]

Wise words indeed Pan.

[timhulio]

It's kinda academic anyway, as CD Wow only stocks one Sonic Youth album (Sonic Nurse of last year- a good album but by no means their best) and their only Velvet Underground record is the pitiful Best of.

[rakibitlou]

doggydoo, on Jul 9 2005, 03:17 AM, said:

misterj, on Jul 8 2005, 11:32 PM, said:

If something is touted as being" the greatest of all time," its highly likely that we would have heard of it. To say an album fits that description, and you, and one of your mates, are the only ones that think so, is even more idiotic.

Well for one, I have no idea who the other person who had the same opinion was. Yes you would have heard of great albums if your definition of great is famous or 'what is generally accepted by everyone as great'. I'd prefer to make my own mind. If being great is not subjective, we would have a definitive list of the top 50 or so greatest musicians which no-one could argue with, but the fact of the matter is it is subjective.

you always seem to go on about how popularity=/=good etc but thats only to you, because your musical taste is quite distinct. mine is also quite distinct but that doesnt stop me from being able to accept that some bands that may not be to my taste are "better" than some of the bands i like.

this list is clearly made to guide those who are inexperienced in rock and need a place to start. theyre not gona start by listening to tool or opeth or dream theater or angra, but like most people they'll probably start out in popular bands like led zep and deep purple and nirvana and gradually focus in narrower sub-genres as their musical taste develops. finding out other bands that fans of your favourite bands listen to and finding out theyre better is how most people eventually arrive at their favourite bands, isnt it?

i sure as hell didnt know dream theater 3 years ago. in fact i may not even be into metal if i didnt hear run to the hills and for whom the bell tolls on a rock compilation album.


edit: this was posted by tommy.

This post has been edited by rakibitlou: 10 July 2005 - 03:00 AM

[Helen SD]

even if you look at it like that, theyres still no reason they should all be old. I dont own a single album before 1990 becasue theyre just boring half the time.. its just to pop-rock of 20 years ago. the albums that got me into rock, metal and beyond are....

The Cooper Temple Clause - See this through and leave
Muse - Origin of symmetry
Tool - Lateralus
Biffy Clyro - Blackened Sky
Pitchshifter - PSI
Opeth - Damnation
Sikth - the trees...
Isis - Oceanic

These are all pretty new bands and gives fans something to follow rather than having no hope of seeing them live or waiting for a new album. Theyre also much better, and far more accessible IMO.